tanacetum-vulgare said:
I hear what you’re saying, but on a hypothetical level anyways at least one option in terms of how to live in that reality could include finding ways to limit or evade some forms of surveillance. The “there’s no going back” argument seems just as disingenuous to me as moral outrage over something we already suspected and, through our actions, seem to have accepted. All that figure of speech really means is “tough shit, live with it,” and serves as an excuse for not actually taking a good hard look at what the tangible options for dealing with the problem may be. I don’t think that’s what you’re thinking here, but “there’s no going back” is, frankly, a really stupid way of thinking about the issues raised by information technology.
Oh, for sure. I knew that post would get some negative responses. I didn’t mean it to imply that we should just accept massive state surveillance. When I said “The question is just how to live in that reality,” I was totally including “taking a good hard look at what the tangible options for dealing with the problem may be,” including finding ways to evade, block, confuse, or otherwise fuck with that surveillance.
What I think is dumb, however, is any kind of shocked response that says, “How could they! What an outrage! Stop it, you guys!” Like, expecting the government to not already be doing these things — or even to back down on them after being discovered — seems totally naive to me.
So when I saw there’s no going back, I just mean we should always already be assuming that these kinds of surveillance are possibly going on, and we should act accordingly: be careful what you make public, and take precautions if you need to.